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Call For The Hall: Recently Retired

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Do you have the NBA Lockout blues?  We feel your pain and have a cure for you.  The Hoops Manifesto has gathered together Bloguin’s best basketball writers to determine which current NBA players have done enough to ensure entry into the hallowed halls of the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame.  Next up: Recently Retired Players 

Voting Panel: Voting panel: Jeff Fox from The Hoops Manifesto, College Wolf from the TWolves Blog, Don & brumbygg from With Malice and Ezra from the Purple and Gold Blog. 

The Locks

These recently retired players are such sure things for the Hall of Fame that we aren’t even going to waste virtual ink debating it:

Allen Iverson
Shaquille O’Neal
Gary Payton

The Toss-Ups

These recently retired players are worth debating on whether they are Hall of Fame-worthy yet or not:

Chris Webber – Golden State Warriors, Washington Bullets, Sacramento Kings, Philadelphia 76ers, Detroit Pistons – 1993 – 2007, 2008
 

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Career NBA Averages: 20.7 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 4.2 apg, 1.4 spg, 1.4 bpg

NBA Accomplishments:

- five-time NBA All-Star
- five-time All-NBA selection
- NBA Rookie of the Year
- NBA All-Rookie Team

NCAA Accomplishments:

- 1st Team AP All-American

Hall of Fame Consensus: IN

“He might be the ultimate tragic figure in basketball – losing twice in the NCAA title game (once because of his timeout call), getting robbed in the playoffs while with Sacramento, his career being hampered by debilitating injuries – but it will end happily with enshrinement in the Hall of Fame.  IN.” – Jeff Fox

IN.  Did you know his real name is Mayce Edward Christopher Webber III?  I did not.  That is all.” – College Wolf 

“Seems like yet another career that promised much more than it delivered. Outstanding HS and college careers along with a number of very good years in the NBA is enough to say IN.” – brumbygg
 
“C-Webb at one point was the best 4 playing the game.  And when you include his HS (National HS Player of the Year), and somewhat-infamy-laden college career, then C-Webb’s an easy inclusion into the Hall.  IN.” – Don 

“C-Webb averaged nearly double-double figures in the NBA and won Rookie of the Year to go along with five All-Star appearances. Not exciting enough to be HOF worthy. In college, he was a member of the Fab Five, but getting himself tangled in that Ed Martin case isn’t helping his HOF considerations.  OUT.” – Ezra
 

Alonzo Mourning – Charlotte Hornets, Miami Heat, New Jersey Nets – 1992 – 2002, 2003, 2004 – 2007

Career NBA Averages: 17.1 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 1.1 apg, 2.8 bpg

NBA Accomplishments:

- member of one NBA championship team
- sixth all-time in blocks per game in NBA history
- two-time NBA Defensive Player of the Year
- two-time All-NBA selection
- seven-time NBA All-Star
- two-time NBA All-Defensive Team selection
- NBA All-Rookie Team

International Accomplishments:

- 1990 FIBA World Championship bronze medalist
- 1994 FIBA World Championship gold medalist
- 2000 Olympic gold medalist

NCAA Accomplishments:

- three-time AP All-American (1st team, 2nd team & 3rd team)

Hall of Fame Consensus: IN

“One of the true warriors in the game’s history.  Zo’s accomplishments on all levels of basketball gets him my vote.  IN.” – Jeff Fox 

IN.  Had an even more decorated career than Chris Webber, who I think should be in.  Plus he won a championship.  And he was a defensive maestro to boot.” – College Wolf

“Zo was a beast on defense and such an intense competitor. Runner up for Rookie of the Year to Shaq, it was fitting that the two of them were on the first Heat championship team. Olympic and World Championship gold medals contribute more than enough to put Zo IN.” – brumbygg

“Zo… I’d like to think that he’ll get into the Hall of Fame – it could be a close call, but I think his resume’s good enough.  Guy was sheer testament to willpower. Sidenote: as a high school senior, Zo averaged 25 points, 15 rebounds and 12 blocks a game.  That, is insane.  IN.” –  Don

“Zo is one of the toughest, most competitive and most intense player ever. An intimidating shot-blocker and superb defender who instantly gave his team an inside force…that includes high school, college, the NBA, FIBA and the Olympics.  IN.” – Ezra

Yao Ming – Houston Rockets – 2002 – 2009, 2010

Career NBA Averages: 19.0 ppg, 9.2 rpg, 1.6 apg, 1.9 bpg

NBA Accomplishments:

- five-time All-NBA selection
- eight-time NBA All-Star
- NBA All-Rookie Team

International Accomplishments:

- 2002 FIBA World Championships All-Tournament Team

Hall of Fame Consensus: IN

“This is a tough call for me, considering Yao played less than 500 games in the NBA.  However, he was pretty dominant when he did play.  I think he’ll get voted in without hesitation, and I’ll also vote him IN – but barely.” – Jeff Fox

“Obviously he had a shortened career, but he was one of the best centers in the league when healthy.  He gets the nod for his international ambassadorship to the game of basketball.  He was/is a pioneer like few others.  IN.” – College Wolf 

“I think Yao Ming contributed far more to the game of basketball than his on-court performance. A perennial All-Star, though that speaks more of a flawed voting system than anything else – and the man who brought Asia to the NBA. That gets him IN.” – brumbygg
 
“This is easy.  If you consider the impact Yao Ming has had on global basketball, then he’s in.  IN.” – Don 

“Yao may not have won a title or an MVP in the NBA, but he’s done enough in the league and in international competition to be a strong candidate for the HOF. Besides, I don’t think we’ll be seeing another giant with his mobility and skill set in a long, long time.  IN.” – Ezra
 

Steve Francis – Houston Rockets, Orlando Magic, New York Knicks – 1999 – 2007

Career NBA Averages: 18.1 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 6.0 apg, 1.5 spg

NBA Accomplishments:

- three-time NBA All-Star
- NBA Rookie of the Year
- NBA All-Rookie Team

NCAA Accomplishments:

- 2nd Team AP All-American

Hall of Fame Consensus: OUT

“My answer is the same that Steve Francis gave to Vancouver when they drafted him – No way Jose.  OUT.” – Jeff Fox

OUT. He has about as much chance to make it as I do.  So, zero.” – College Wolf 

“An awesome crossover, sick dunks and a massive sense of entitlement are not enough. OUT.” – brumbygg
 
“Stevie Franchise certainly has his fans, and he definitely had a lot of flash… but I don’t see much substance to his career.  Good player, but OUT.” – Don 

“Absolutely, positively a NO!  OUT.” – Ezra
 

Sam Cassell – Houston Rockets, Phoenix Suns, Dallas Mavericks, New Jersey Nets, Milwaukee Bucks, Minnesota Timberwolves, Los Angeles Clippers, Boston Celtics – 1993 – 2008

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Career NBA Averages: 15.7 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 6.0 apg, 1.1 spg

NBA Accomplishments:

- member of three NBA championship teams
- one-time All-NBA selection
- one-time NBA All-Star

Hall of Fame Consensus: OUT

“An entertaining guy, and a very good player in his day, but not good enough.  OUT.” – Jeff Fox

“The Martian!!!  Oh wait, ummm… OUT.  He did win 2.5 championships though (2008 with the Celtics doesn’t count.)” – College Wolf 

“Started off his career with a couple of titles and got a third at the tail end of it. Had some very, very good years but never enough to warrant inclusion here. OUT.” – brumbygg

“Again, a guy with some flair and interest… but despite having a knack for being in the right place at the right time, no.  Simply not good enough to be a Hall of Fame member.  OUT.” – Don 

“He may have three rings to show off, but he really has nothing much else after that.  OUT.” – Ezra
 

Stephon Marbury- Minnesota Timberwolves, New Jersey Nets, Phoenix Suns, New York Knicks, Boston Celtics – 1996 – 2009

Career NBA Averages: 19.3 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 7.6 apg, 1.2 spg 

NBA Accomplishments:

- two-time All-NBA selection
- two-time NBA All-Star
- NBA All-Rookie Team selection

International Accomplishments:

- 2004 Olympic bronze medalist

NCAA Accomplishments:

- 3rd Team AP All-American

Hall of Fame Consensus: OUT

“A Hall of Fame head case, but not a Hall of Fame player.  OUT.”Jeff Fox

“Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.  Even if you quadruple his stats from China, still not even close.  OUT.” – College Wolf

“The craziness of the second half of Starbury’s NBA career really diminished his earlier achievements. OUT.” – brumbygg

“If anyone could challenge Ron Artest as being the craziest player to have every graced the NBA hardwood, it’s Starbury.  Certainly made headlines in his time, and is one of the more philanthropic players the NBA’s seen… but I can’t see him in the Hall of Fame.  OUT.” – Don

“See Steve FrancisOUT.” – Ezra

Dikembe Mutombo- Denver Nuggets, Atlanta Hawks, Philadelphia 76ers, New Jersey Nets, New York Knicks,  – 1991 – 2008, 2009

Career NBA Averages: 9.8 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 1.0 apg, 2.8 bpg

NBA Accomplishments:

- second all-time in blocked shots in NBA history
- tenth all-time in defensive rebounds in NBA history
- tenth all-time in offensive rebounds in NBA history
- seventh all-time in blocks per game in NBA history
- eight-time NBA All-Star
- three-time All-NBA selection
- four-time NBA Defensive Player of the Year
- six-time NBA All-Defensive Team selection
- NBA All-Rookie Team

NCAA Accomplishments:

- 3rd Team AP All-American

Hall of Fame Consensus: IN

IN, without hesitation.  Defensive players tend to get overlooked for lesser players who happen to put up gaudy scoring numbers.  Dikembe is a defensive all-time great.” – Jeff Fox

IN.  Never won a title, but was easily one of the best defensive players of all-time.” – College Wolf
 
“Hell, he should get just so his full name can be recognised! Dikembe Mutombo Mpolondo Mukamba Jean-Jacques Wamutombo! I like to think that a four-time Defensive Player of the Year will be recognised for the dominant force he was. IN.” – brumbygg
 
“Speaking of philanthropy, Mutombo. A great man, but a Hall of Famer?  Hell yes.  Anyone who wins the DPoY four times should be in (note that on Ben Wallace!).  To any who disagree: you get the finger-wagIN.” – Don 

“(Finger waving) No way Mt. Mutombo gets denied out of Springfield.  IN.” – Ezra
 

Rasheed Wallace – Washington Bullets, Portland Trail Blazers, Atlanta Hawks, Detroit Pistons, Boston Celtics – 1995 – 2010

Career NBA Averages: 14.6 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 1.8 apg, 1.0 spg, 1.3 bpg

NBA Accomplishments:

- member of one NBA championship team
- four-time NBA All-Star
- NBA All-Rookie Team

NCAA Accomplishments:

- 2nd Team AP All-American

Hall of Fame Consensus: IN

“A very unique, versatile player (he and Cliff Robinson are the only two players in NBA history to record over 1000 career blocks and 1000 career three-pointers), but was never considered one of the game’s top 15 players while he was playing.  OUT.” – Jeff Fox

“Gets an IN in my book.  I saw a blurb once back in the day that he was one of very few (the only?) to get 100 blocks, steals, and three-pointers made in a single season (editor’s note: Shawn Marion and Robert Horry also accomplished this feat once).  He did it in 2001, and nearly again in 2005-06, 06-07, and 07-08.  Plus he won a title and was a badass.” – College Wolf 

“I said ‘yes’ to Ben Wallace and ‘yes’ to Chauncey Billups and using the same logic believe that Sheed belongs in the hall. A Final Four appearance with UNC, an NBA title and was the heart, if not the soul, of the Pistons 2004 title. IN.” – brumbygg

“The heart and soul of the Detroit resurgence.  As Sheed went, so’d the Pistons.  As a Lakers fan, I hated LA playing against him – but the guy was a warrior, and I still believe he deserves the HoF status that I have the other Pistons getting.  IN.” – Don

“Hard to say. Yeah, he’s one of the most versatile and best shooting big man ever and has a ring, but he lacks teeth in overall career achievements. Then again, being the all-time leader in technical fouls just might do it for him.  OUT.” – Ezra

Anfernee ‘Penny’ Hardaway – Orlando Magic, Phoenix Suns, New York Knicks, Miami Heat – 1993 – 2000, 2001 – 2005, 2007 

Career NBA Averages:
15.2 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 5.0 apg, 1.6 spg

NBA Accomplishments:

- four-time NBA All-Star
- three-time All-NBA selection
- NBA All-Rookie Team

International Accomplishments:

- 1996 Olympic gold medalist

NCAA Accomplishments:

- 1st Team AP All-American

Hall of Fame Consensus: OUT

“Another real tough one – a spectacular start to his NBA career, success on the international and NCAA level, but injuries derailed him.  OUT.” – Jeff Fox

OUT, but it is closer than you might think.  His career was shortened due to injuries, but early on he was on the fast track to the HOF.” – College Wolf 

“At first glance Penny is definitely OUT, but then after a little digging…. an outstanding HS player, All-American at Memphis, finalist for the Naismith College Player of the Year and the John R. Wooden Award, an Olympic gold medalist, a number of outstanding NBA years, four-time all-star, three-time All-NBA….. I’m going to be Jeff-crazy this week and say IN.” – brumbygg
 
“Hell, I could honestly flip either way on Penny, but at the moment I’m feeling “OUT“.” – Don 
 
“Nah, his resume is as short as Lil’ Penny.  OUT.” – Ezra

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