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Call For The Hall: The Eastern Conference

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Do you have the NBA Lockout blues?  We feel your pain and have a cure for you.  The Hoops Manifesto has gathered together Bloguin’s best basketball writers to determine which current NBA players have done enough to ensure entry into the hallowed halls of the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame.  First up:  The Eastern Conference.

Voting panel: Jeff Fox from The Hoops Manifesto, College Wolf from the TWolves Blog, Don & brumbygg from With Malice and Ezra from the Purple and Gold Blog. 

The Locks

These Eastern Conference players are such sure things for the Hall of Fame that we aren’t even going to waste virtual ink debating it:

Kevin Garnett
Ray Allen
Paul Pierce


The Toss-Ups

These Eastern Conference players are worth debating on whether they are Hall of Fame-worthy yet or not:

LeBron James – Cleveland Cavaliers, Miami Heat - 2003 – present

Career NBA Averages: 27.7 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 7.0 apg, 1.7 spg
 
NBA Accomplishments:

- fifth all-time in minutes per game in NBA history
- third all-time in points per game in NBA history
- two-time NBA MVP
- NBA Rookie of the Year
- seven-time NBA All-Star
- NBA All-Rookie Team
- seven-time All-NBA selection
- three-time All-Defensive Team selection

International Accomplishments:

- 2004 Olympic bronze medalist
- 2006 FIBA World Championship bronze medalist
- 2008 Olympic gold medalist

Hall of Fame Consensus: IN

“This one is a no brainer for me – I’m voting LeBron into the Hall of Fame without even giving it much thought.  He’s been (worse case scenario) a top 10 player in the League for the past seven years, he’s won two MVPs (every previous MVP winner has been voted into the Hall after they retire) and also has a stellar international basketball resume.  Only eight years into his career and he already has a more Hall-worthy resume than many players already voted in.  My vote: IN.” – Jeff Fox

“The self-proclaimed King has a long ways to even be considered a prince. Well, that’s assuming he’ll finally grow up.  OUT.” – Ezra

IN.  I could be wrong, but I believe all multiple MVP winners are in the HOF.  Unfortunately, that means I have to give Nash a ‘yes’ vote as well.  Anyone that is the best player in the league for multiple seasons gets my vote.” – College Wolf

“If he retired today he’d get in and I’d say ‘meh’. If he plays for another seven-eight years and doesn’t win a title he’ll get in and I’ll say ‘meh’. Needs a couple of titles to cement his legacy.  IN.” – brumbygg

“In my mind, LeBron James is the best basketball player in the world today.  But that doesn’t mean history will remember him that way.  Because if he doesn’t win a few rings, then he’ll still get in, but it becomes “probably” rather than a certainty.  Because of all the “Kobe or LeBron” arguments, until LeBron does a little bit more at the very end of the season then there’s really no discussion at all.  Even so, that’s a “yes vote”.  IN.” – Don 

Dwyane Wade – Miami Heat – 2003 – present

Career NBA Averages: 25.4 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 6.3 apg, 1.8 spg

NBA Accomplishments:

- member of one NBA championship team
- NBA Finals MVP
- tenth all-time in points per game in NBA history
- seven-time NBA All-Star selection
- NBA All-Rookie Team
- three-time NBA All-Defensive Team selection
- six-time All-NBA selection

International Accomplishments:

- 2004 Olympic bronze medalist
- 2006 FIBA World Championship bronze medalist
- 2008 Olympic gold medalist

NCAA Accomplishments:

- 1st Team All-American

Hall of Fame Consensus: IN 

“A far more difficult decision than putting LeBron in the Hall.  But Dwyane Wade has the one trump card over “The King” – a NBA championship and Finals MVP.  That, coupled with his stellar play in the NBA (and internationally) over the length of his career, is why I’m voting Dwyane Wade IN.” – Jeff Fox

“One title isn’t enough to lock D-Wade into the Hall of Fame. But if he wins at least two more titles and continue to play at a high level beyond 30, he should be a shoe-in when it’s all said and done.  OUT.” – Ezra

“IN,
but barely.  By the slightest of margins.” – College Wolf

“He’ll get there, but not yet for me. Needs another couple of stellar seasons to make it a lock. Another ring might be nice too.  OUT.” – brumbygg

“I think when the dust settles on Dwyane Wade‘s career, he’ll be in the Hall of Fame.  For my money, he deserves to be in the Hall more than Paul Pierce does.  Would a ring or two more help his case?  For sure, but probably only the difference between being a first or second ballot.  So that’s a “yes”.  IN.” - Don 
 

Chris Bosh – Toronto Raptors, Miami Heat - 2003 – present

Career NBA Averages:20.0 ppg, 9.2 rpg, 1.1 bpg

NBA Accomplishments:

- six-time NBA All-Star
- one-time All-NBA selection
- NBA All-Rookie Team

International Accomplishments:

- 2006 FIBA World Championship bronze medalist
- 2008 Olympic gold medalist

Hall of Fame Consensus:  OUT

“He’s put up some nice numbers over his career, albeit mostly for a bad team, but Chris Bosh‘s resume is just not up to snuff for the Hall.  And now that he’s the third wheel on Miami, it’s doubtful he’ll be able to keep his numbers up and get enough personal accolades to improve his Hall chances in the future.  My vote: OUT.” – Jeff Fox

“See Lebron and Wade.  OUT.” – Ezra

“Hahahahahahahahahaha – OUT.” – College Wolf

“Not going to happen. Was absolutely shown up last year in Miami. There’s no Big 3 in Florida.  OUT.” – brumbygg

“I have no idea why Chris Bosh is even on this list.  I mean… really?  Chris Bosh?  HELL no.  OUT.” - Don 


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Amar’e Stoudemire – Phoenix Suns, New York Knicks - 2002 - present

Career NBA Averages: 21.9 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 1.5 bpg

NBA Accomplishments:

- six-time NBA All-Star
- NBA Rookie of the Year
- NBA All-Rookie Team
- five-time All-NBA selection

International Accomplishments:

- 2004 Olympic bronze medalist

Hall of Fame Consensus: OUT

“He’s much maligned on the defensive end, put Amar’e Stoudemire has had a real good career so far.  His numbers, especially scoring, and All-NBA selections are stellar.  But not stellar enough.  My vote: OUT.” – Jeff Fox

“Are you kidding me?  OUT.” – Ezra

“OUT,
and not even really close.  What does he realistically do that is HOF-worthy besides scoring points?” – College Wolf

“As yet, OUT. He showed a whole bunch last season, but needs another couple of big years.” – brumbygg

“Simply put, no.  Amar’e's been a great player thus far, and he has the potential to be at the forefront of a New York revival that will be at the very least, most entertaining – if not amazing.  That’s going to take some mighty big changes tho’ – both from the perspective of what the Knicks can put on the hardwood, and what happens in the front office.  But for now, that’s just a pipe-dream.  Just as Amar’e in the Hall is.  OUT.” - Don 

  
Carmelo Anthony – Denver Nuggets, New York Knicks - 2003 – present

Career NBA Averages:
24.8 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 3.1 apg

NBA Accomplishments:

- four-time NBA All-Star
- three-time All-NBA selection
- NBA All-Rookie Team

International Accomplishments:

- 2004 Olympic bronze medalist
- 2006 FIBA World Championship bronze medalist
- 2008 Olympic gold medalist

NCAA Accomplishments:

- member of one NCAA championship team
- Final Four Most Outstanding Player
2nd Team All-American

Hall of Fame Consensus: OUT

Carmelo Anthony hasn’t done enough in the NBA to get himself into the Hall of Fame – yet.  But the real wildcard here is his great (yet brief) NCAA resume, capped by leading Syracuse to the NCAA title.  While I’m not voting Melo in yet, when all is said and done I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets in.  My vote: OUT.” – Jeff Fox

“Melo is still having trouble learning how to defend. Then, he has to worry about sharing the ball with Amare. After that, it’s his leadership. See the pattern?  OUT.” – Ezra

“He’s really good, but OUT.  He’s a really good rebounding SF, but his defense is non-existent.  His NCAA title helps his cause, but it’s still not enough and was only one year.” – College Wolf

OUT.” – brumbygg

“Read Amar’e Stoudemire.  OUT.” – Don 

 

Chauncey Billups - Boston Celtics, Toronto Raptors, Denver Nuggets, Minnesota Timberwolves, Detroit Pistons, New York Knicks - 1997 – present

Career NBA Averages: 15.5 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 5.6 apg, 1.0 spg 

NBA Accomplishments:

- member of one NBA championship team
- NBA Finals MVP
- five-time NBA All-Star
- two-time NBA All-Defensive Team selection
- three-time All-NBA selection
- fifth all-time in three-pointers made in the NBA
- fifth all-time in free throw % in the NBA

International Accomplishments:

- 2010 FIBA World Championship gold medalist

NCAA Accomplishments:

2nd Team All-American

Hall of Fame Consensus: IN 

“He played at a Hall of Fame level while with Detroit, but Chauncey Billups was just so average his first five years in the League.   He just wasn’t good enough for long enough.  My vote: OUT.” – Jeff Fox

“Outside his ring and Finals MVP award, will he be remembered for anything else? Nope!  Ezra’s vote: OUT.” – Ezra

IN.” – College Wolf

“IN, no question. Has achieved more than enough to make it to the Hall.” – brumbygg

“It’s hard to watch Chauncey now, and think “that’s a Hall of Famer”, especially looking through the lens of how many teams he’s played for.  But despite his early nomadic years, in the days of his ascendancy, Mr Bigshot was one of the most feared players in the NBA.  The guy was the head/brains of the Detroit Pistons team that took the 2004 title off the mighty Lakers.  Billups may not get into the Hall in his first try, but he will get IN.” - Don 

 

Tracy McGrady – Toronto Raptors, Orlando Magic, Houston Rockets, New York Knicks, Detroit Pistons - 1997 - present

Career NBA Averages: 20.4 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 4.6 apg, 1.3 spg 

NBA Accomplishments:

- seven-time NBA All-Star
- NBA Most Improved Player
- seven-time All-NBA selection

Hall of Fame Consensus: OUT

“A strong NCAA and/or international resume would help Tracy McGrady‘s Hall of Fame status tremendously.  As it stands he comes up just short in my eyes.  My vote: OUT.” – Jeff Fox

“Injuries and Hall of Fame do not quite sound good together.  Ezra’s vote: OUT.” – Ezra

OUT.  Career tragically shortened, otherwise he could have had a shot at the Hall.” – College Wolf

OUT.” – brumbygg

“There were years where T-Mac’s game was held in such high esteem that he was only just below Kobe Bryant.  Hard to believe now.  After injuries, the “first round hoodoo” and lack of effort decimated his game, Tracy McGrady‘s clearly not a Hall of Fame candidate.  OUT.” - Don 

Dwight Howard – Orlando Magic – 2004 - present

Career NBA Averages: 18.2 ppg, 12.9 rpg, 1.5 apg, 1.0 spg, 2.2 bpg

NBA Accomplishments:

- fourth all-time in field goal % in NBA history
- five-time NBA All-Star
- three-time NBA Defensive Player of the Year
- NBA All-Rookie Team
- five-time All-NBA selection
- four-time NBA All-Defensive Team selection

International Accomplishments:

- 2006 FIBA World Championship bronze medalist
- 2008 Olympic gold medalist

Hall of Fame Consensus: OUT

“18 points, 13 boards and two blocks a game as a career average!  Plus three DPOY awards and five All-NBA nods.  I’m going to surprise myself and vote Dwight Howard IN.” – Jeff Fox

“If he gets two more DPOYs plus at least one title, I think he’s in.  Ezra’s vote: OUT.” – Ezra

“OUT,
but only because he’s too young.  Give it a few more seasons and one of the best defensive players of all-time is a lock for the HOF.” – College Wolf

“If he continues to improve the way he has in recent years and continues to dominate games, then yes.  IN.” – brumbygg

“Perhaps the toughest call on this end of the list.  At this point in time, no.  Dwight’s going to have to do more than just be a great player on a bridesmaid team.  Not yet.  OUT.“ - Don 

 

Ben Wallace – Washington Bullets/Wizards, Orlando Magic, Detroit Pistons, Chicago Bulls, Cleveland Cavaliers - 1996 - present

Career NBA Averages: 6.0 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 1.4 apg, 1.3 spg, 2.0 bpg

NBA accomplishments:

- member of one NBA championship team
- four-time NBA All-Star
- four-time NBA Defensive Player of the Year
- six-time NBA All-Defensive Team selection
- five-time All-NBA selection

Hall of Fame Consensus: OUT

“When he was good, he was Hall of Fame good, but when he wasn’t he was a journeyman.  Too little, too late.  My vote: OUT.” – Jeff Fox

“Hmmm…if Dikembe makes it, he will.  Ezra’s vote: OUT.” – Ezra

“OUT,
but I gave it a long, hard thought.” – College Wolf

“One of the great defensive players, over 10,000 rebounds and a championship. More than enough to get IN.” – brumbygg

“One of the best defensive players to play in our generation, Ben Wallace‘s story is a testament to hard work and perseverance – he played with a toughness and will that belied his size.  Part of the Billups-led Pistons, and if Billups was the brains of the operation, then Big Ben was it’s spine.  Call him “the anti-TMac”.  Hell yes.  IN.” – Don 


Joe Johnson - Boston Celtics, Phoenix Suns, Atlanta Hawks - 2001 - present

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Career NBA Averages: 17.7 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 4.5 apg, 1.0 spg

NBA Accomplishments:

- five-time NBA All-Star
- one-time All-NBA selection
- NBA All-Rookie Team

International Accomplishments:

- 2006 FIBA World Championship bronze medalist

Hall of Fame Consensus:  OUT

“Who’s the idiot who included Joe Johnson on a Hall of Fame consideration list?!  Oh wait, that would have been me.  He’s OUT.” – Jeff Fox

“Ummm, no.  Ezra’s vote: OUT.” – Ezra

“OUT.
  Captain of the All-Time Overpaid All-Stars.” – College Wolf

“Needs two-three big years to be considered.  OUT.” – brumbygg

“Again, I find myself uncomfortable at a name even appearing here.  A guy who’s not even counted in the best ten players in the league today?  Nuh-uh.  OUT.” – Don 

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